Game of Thrones realism

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13 Aug 2017 12:30 - +805
I hate arguments like this. Let's be hypothetical for a minute, and use GOT as an example. If Tyrion suddenly became 100 ft tall and started shooting laser beams from his eyes for no reason, would that be acceptable? Why not? It's fantasy; no rules, right? If that actually happened, fans of the series would be furious, and for good reason. The fantasy genre isn't some author/storyteller saying "hey let me tell you a bunch of random nonsense". Fantasy is a storyteller saying "imagine a *reality* in which some crazy stuff was possible *but* these standard rules applied". Fantasy isn't "no rules", it's some twists on real world rules. The twist(s) can be anything, but the rules must stay consistent. Break that, and you lose the entire integrity of your story.
13 Aug 2017 12:28 - +233
He's lucky nobody asked him about the depth of the river Jaime fell into
13 Aug 2017 11:57 - +119
The only difference is, the supernatural stuff has been established very early on in the show. So this comeback doesn't really hold up since the question was about something 'natural' as walking and traveling all around the world and he is still fat is still a suffice observation to make logistically, even in a fantasy show. Although with that said, he does look like he might have lost some weight.
13 Aug 2017 11:52 - +85
13 Aug 2017 13:01 - +65
This thread is a god damn nightmare of stupidity. For fuck's sake, he's taking offense to some idiot having the audacity to come up to him (a complete stranger) and just start calling him fat. Fuck.
13 Aug 2017 14:34 - +18
13 Aug 2017 13:23 - +11
It's called [Willing Suspension of Disbelief]( (Warning, Tv Tropes link)
13 Aug 2017 12:49 - +6
Giving birth to a cloud? I missed this
13 Aug 2017 13:44 - +6
I mean, what are we to believe, that this is a magic xylophone, or something? Ha ha, boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
13 Aug 2017 12:07 - +6
Poor guy
13 Aug 2017 15:03 - +5
Wrong. The reason we can suspend disbelief when watching this fantasy show with dragons and magic is because it is set in the rules of the real world. When the rules of the real world start getting bent and broken we start having issues suspending our disbelief. Sam being really big when he first shows up the Nights Watch makes perfect sense. He was from a rich family, read a lot and was adverse to physical activity. But weight should have started melting off that young man the week he joined the Watch. There aren't seconds and the food is basic (stews with a piece of bread). He is doing more physical activity (practicing swordsmanship) than he ever has. And what's more, he is doing it in the freezing cold. And then when he goes north, food is even more rationed and he is walking miles and miles. Then when shit goes down, he is running and doesn't even have any food. No, I can accept dragons because fantasy, but Sam should have lost at least 50lbs by the time he got back to the wall. And right now (even the Citadel serves basic food with normal portions and he's doing a ton of calorie burning chores) he should be trim. That said, it does look like the actor has lost weight since the last season, hell I'm rewatching S01 and he was obviously his biggest then. But that argument is as soft as the shit you were cleaning at the Citadel.
13 Aug 2017 13:17 - +4
He's definitely lost weight though! Good for him
13 Aug 2017 13:10 - +4
Eh... nah... i still think the character would have lost at least a *little* weight being north of the wall at least. Idk how cold it would be but if its anything like going to our own north you generally have to eat fairly well to compensate for how many calories you burn keeping warm. Either way they were mostly eating small animals. Thats not much. So yeah he should have lost weight. But i never put too much thought on it because i just figure the real reason is because the actor cant lose weight. They all know that they just don't want to say anything because it would be rude. And the guy that went up to him and asked that question in the first place was rude to do so as well. Doesn't mean his response was logical... it was just a way to avoid the truth because its mean. That being said... theres other more notable discrepancies anyways... like it always bothered me that they never covered their face. I mean its cold af and you're standing on top of a frozen wall. Icey wind blowing in your face. Maybe the starks are some special kind of resistant to the cold maybe... but the rest of them should have been covering their faces or else had red maybe even frostbitten faces otherwise. They never really did do a good job at depicting just how cold it must be up there.
13 Aug 2017 12:23 - +3
He better have the same perky humor when he removes my gray scale.
13 Aug 2017 14:09 - +3
The story is obviously made up like most of these celebrity talk show stories. But still Martin's universe both in the show and in books seems to obey most of "laws" that we have, so yeah it really is weird that Sam remains so fat. Other characters look cause of their lifestyle, a good example is Robert, he was huge and muscular during the war but then he became king and well...
13 Aug 2017 13:33 - +3
I always thought that about Hugo from Lost! You've been on this damn island with no food for how long and you're still fat?!?
13 Aug 2017 12:49 - +3
Last time this was posted I said this: Game Of Thrones has an established world, with rules that are set out. People starve to death in GoT, dragons exist and so does magic. You know what doesn't exist? People magically staying fat despite them not actually having the intake that supports their weight. It's almost the equivalent if you were watching Game of Thrones and then suddenly in the middle of an episode, a horse just appears out of nowhere. Just literally phases into reality, no explanation, there's no magic involved, it's just SUDDENLY a horse. It makes no fucking sense within the rules of the universe, it's internally inconsistent.
13 Aug 2017 15:09 - +2
Is Maisie Williams old enough yet for me to say what I want to say about that second picture?
13 Aug 2017 14:56 - +2
If you're wondering how he eats and breaths and other science facts, just repeat to yourself: "It's just a show, I should really just relax." But seriously, before he was a night watchman, he was a rich kid. Medieval rich kids got fat. It was a sign of wealth.
13 Aug 2017 12:39 - +2
His hand looks unnaturally small in that photo.
13 Aug 2017 14:51 - +2
Jesus Christ these comments. Dude made a joke. Bunch of Reddit neck beards strutting how smart they are and over-analzying why this logic wouldn't wouldn't play out. The fuck is wrong with you people? He was on Conan. It's supposed to be funny. Of course his comeback in the story wasn't just "fuck off, mate".
13 Aug 2017 15:06 - +1
i always wondered if Sam's actor has to retain his physique for his role (or any actor who plays a certain character that is heavy), what if they wanted to lose weight?
13 Aug 2017 14:51 - +1
13 Aug 2017 15:11 - +1
Look, Samwell's got to have someplace to store all that awesome.
13 Aug 2017 14:52 - +1
13 Aug 2017 14:38 - +1
All they have to do is show a random scene in a new episode where he's all by himself in his room chowing down hardcore on like 5 pies.
13 Aug 2017 14:55 - +1
He was eating too much snow when he was in the Night Watch..
13 Aug 2017 15:12 - +1
13 Aug 2017 14:58 - +1
because you're the one he's talking to and there isn't really any evidence that basic fatness falls into the magic mythology of the world. it's annoyed me as well
13 Aug 2017 15:07 - +1
Because the dragons and vagina monster are explained by in-universe magic. Sam doesn't have fat magic. Just because Harry Potter is a wizard doesn't mean Dudley can breathe fire.
13 Aug 2017 14:58 - +1
When will Wreck It Ralph 2 reach us?
13 Aug 2017 15:10 - +1
I have an idea. Instead of putting still images with subtitles, there's a thing called video.
13 Aug 2017 15:03 - +1
Does someone really give birth to a cloud?
13 Aug 2017 15:12 - +1
how old are these girls. can i say some weird stuff about them yet
13 Aug 2017 15:08 - +1
Next episode they reveal Sam's been eating everything. Leather boots, corpses, that shit he was ferrying back and forth in the citadel... Sam: Oh hey Jorah, do you eat poop too? Jorah: No, Sam... Sam: Me neither! Jorah: PICKLE JORAAAAAAAAAAAAH
13 Aug 2017 14:19 - +1
The real reason why they sent him south was because he was eating up all the supplies in the north.
13 Aug 2017 14:42 - +0
Because those other things are consistent within the reality of the GoT universe. Your character still being a fat piece of lard after barely eating and constantly moving is fucking not.
13 Aug 2017 13:36 - +0
Didnt that guy have a haircut that only framed his face 2 or 3 years ago?
13 Aug 2017 15:04 - +0
I'm glad this thread is full of dietitians; it's not so easy to lose a lifetime of weight gain in a couple of years of roughing it. Sure, maybe some (which the actor clearly has) but he's not doing a core regimen and eating healthy foods. He's fucking surviving, and his body is likely trying to hold onto all the fat it has to keep itself warm.
13 Aug 2017 14:04 - +0
It's the "Miracle Exception". We can accept the crazy, supernatural parts of the story. But the fact that a standard human doesn't lose weight in the face of prolonged intense cardio? That's too far.

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