Eating meat isn't natural


13 Oct 2017 10:55 - +318
tiny nitpick that cooking meat doesn't necessarily increase the calorie content, rather it serves to break down the food prior to eating so that the body can extract more nutrition out of the same amount of meat. But the point is the same. Also the cooking step was a huge boon as far as reducing risk of food borne illness and parasites. The introduction of meat to the primate diet, and the massive amount of protein that came with it is what sparked the evolutionary light speed rate of brain growth, leaving other primates in the dust. It can be said that meat is one of the biggest steps we took towards becoming human. Te be fair it wasn't meat alone that sped the growth, it was also the competition from other big brains within our species, but the meat is what fueled it. It's only with those newly acquired big brains that we figured out how to nourish ourselves with vegetables alone. That doesn't necessarily mean that eating meat is the "right" way, it's just how we got to where we are, and it's not right or wrong. The "natural" argument is totally bunk (pretty much in any context really). Saying meat must necessarily be the correct way to eat is also bunk tho, it's saying consumption of fossil fuels are what sparked the industrial revolution and boosted us to the technological level we're at now, so it must be the "natural" way to go forward. Eat meat if you want. If you don't, don't. Humanity has earned the luxury to choose and can manage either way.. The life of a caveman was passable to a caveman. By modern standards it was a nightmare.
13 Oct 2017 10:30 - +198
If you believe in all natural, why are you posting that from the internet instead of painting it on a cave wall with your feces. Hypocrite.
13 Oct 2017 10:55 - +78
everything is natural. humans exist in nature, everything we use and create comes from nature. unless you somehow believe humans are supernatural, everything is natural.
13 Oct 2017 11:06 - +39
Our closest primate cousins, Chimpanzees, [hunt monkeys for meat]( I guess they didn't get the vegan memo on how they're unnatural.
13 Oct 2017 12:50 - +20
While the natural argument is bullshit, the counter-argument is also bullshit. There's nothing to say that now we have developed to this point THANKS TO MEAT, we can't take the next step and move beyond the need to eat meat by developing other sources of food that meet our requirements -- just as we once developed to go from eating raw to cooking our food. That might indeed included growing artificial meat in a laboratory.
13 Oct 2017 10:34 - +18
Hey, sashimi is pretty good.
13 Oct 2017 10:59 - +17
Pretty much anything looks disgusting when you do it like that. You could have someone eating a salad and it would look gross if they just mashed up the lettuce, tomatoes, dressing, etc. into a gooey ball and smeared it over their face. I'm also not really following their argument; are they actually rejecting the concept of fire? There are legitimate criticisms of the meat industry and agriculture, but "they use heat to cook food" isn't really one of them. You might as well say that the problem with Wells Fargo is that they use electricity.
13 Oct 2017 10:55 - +8
Is the 250,000 year estimate for cooking meat accurate?
13 Oct 2017 12:50 - +7
Modern lifestyle? Hasn't a good amount of India been primarily vegetarian for hundreds of years?
13 Oct 2017 10:31 - +6
Mic drop
13 Oct 2017 12:37 - +5
If animals weren't meant to be eaten, then why are they made out of food?
13 Oct 2017 11:21 - +4
By humans having canine teeth one could assume that it was for the purpose of eating meat. Although I think they are much larger on carnivorous animals.
13 Oct 2017 11:59 - +3
The first step a scientist uses in determining what a species eats is by inspecting it's teeth. Ours dictate that we are omnivorous.
13 Oct 2017 11:02 - +3
13 Oct 2017 13:15 - +1
Yeah let's not give this person a pedestal because this is not the majority of vegetarians.
13 Oct 2017 13:06 - +1
As if vegans grow all their vegetables, eat them uncooked and unseasoned, and eat all the roots and leaves.
13 Oct 2017 13:12 - +1
"Challenge accepted"
13 Oct 2017 13:08 - +1
We as a species didn't even invent cooking. It was around before us, and it made us who we are. Our man-like ancestors invented cooking and practiced it for millions of years before the first of our species walked the Earth. It's as natural as dirt to a worm.
13 Oct 2017 13:05 - +1
Hemlock is natural Getting mauled by a bear is natural Dying of small pox is natural
13 Oct 2017 13:06 - +1
That picture is fucking gross.
13 Oct 2017 12:53 - +1
13 Oct 2017 11:03 - +1
There isnt any evidence for the claims that are made about meat helping our brains develop. Bad info even if it sounds good is still bad info.
13 Oct 2017 13:24 - +1
This was beautiful.
13 Oct 2017 13:15 - +1
Lots of other things you can't eat raw: potatoes, rice, beans, etc
13 Oct 2017 13:22 - +1
Ok, go ahead and eat some raw nuts. I'm not actually trying to prove a point, I just want you to be in agony while you re-evaluate your argument.
13 Oct 2017 13:03 - +1
TIL "calorific" is a word. And I'll use it to describe how I'm feeling after a full meal
13 Oct 2017 13:18 - +1
Blue steak tastes pretty good.
13 Oct 2017 13:05 - +1
In my country, we say to eat the heart of the beast...this will give you the power of its soul to fight the evil gypsy and bring forth its tears, which when imbibed will cure your AIDS.
13 Oct 2017 13:24 - +1
While I agree wholeheartedly with the above statement and am an avid meat lover, let's not forget just how fucked up factory farming is and that by eating meat produced through that industry you are silently supporting it. Yes I am guilty as well. Bring on the lab cultured future meat!!!!!
13 Oct 2017 10:26 - +1
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13 Oct 2017 13:16 - +1
This tastes almost as good as meat.
13 Oct 2017 13:12 - +1
God, imagine the salmonella tho. Also I'm not sure what that red cubic object is supposed to be - liver? It doesn't look like any chicken liver I've ever eaten.
13 Oct 2017 13:21 - +1
Honestly though, what the fuck is "natural?" Even as a vegan I'm calling this a weak argument. There are many ways to be a healthy human being and eating raw meat is actually one of them lol.
13 Oct 2017 13:13 - +1
Your teeth are easy proof we are meat eaters
13 Oct 2017 13:23 - +1
Don't make me cook a salad.
13 Oct 2017 13:25 - +1
cooking burn.
13 Oct 2017 13:25 - +1
If you eat a vegan does that make you a vegetarian?
13 Oct 2017 13:04 - +1
13 Oct 2017 12:27 - +1
Tartare and sushi are both a thing and delicious so IDK what that person was trying to prove. The whole dick waving contest on both sides about natural vs. unnatural and the taste of food is stupid. It's 2017. If I want chemicals in my shampoo, or to wear shoes, or to eat or not eat meat I'm going to do it because society has evolved to the point where it exists so snubbing something because of the way our progenitors lived is stupid and they'd probably smack us upside the head for being stupid. So no I'm not going to eat raw meat just because it's the 'natural' option. Fire and cooking is pretty much the most basic invention in human history and snubbing it is like snubbing medical advancements.
13 Oct 2017 13:27 - +1
As a vegetarian I agree, but I still choose to not eat meat because it's better for the environment, I think life should be respected, I don't wish to create more suffering in the world, and it's a privilege to have the opportunity to make such a choice. A lot of things are "natural", including eating meat, as our species are omnivores, but that doesn't mean we should choose to do them.
13 Oct 2017 13:06 - +1
I know a woman in the Facebook page of frequently compare meat eaters with child molesters because according to her both of them exploit the weak and the worst part is she gets plenty of upvotes
13 Oct 2017 13:18 - +1
I imagine some vegan posting this to /r/iamverysmart They'd be stupid to do so though.
13 Oct 2017 12:33 - +1
Funny how the kind of people who post images like this always seem to forget about the Inuit, who traditionally ate mostly meat, and ate most of their meat raw. What couldn’t be eaten was either used for tools or clothing or fed to sled dogs. And, studies showed Inuit people living on a traditional diet to be among the healthiest people on earth.
13 Oct 2017 12:49 - +1
As Humans we have evolved to a point where our consciousness overrides our primitive nature which is essentially at its core: can I eat? can I fuck it? Let's not pretend that our base is any greater than that. We are omnivores. We will literally eat whatever is available.
13 Oct 2017 12:49 - +1
I hate puns but I...I have to. God forgive me. Boom. Roasted.
13 Oct 2017 13:03 - +1
Is too late now though because we can't digest vegetation as well as we used to be able to
13 Oct 2017 13:12 - +1
A better argument would be we ate meat because we had to. That's no longer the case; we don't need to torture and kill animals to live healthy happy lives.
13 Oct 2017 12:45 - +0
i am not vegan but i support vegans on ethical grounds. that said, there is nothing natural about a vegan diet for humans. no ancient society ever studied was vegan. that is veryvtelling.
13 Oct 2017 12:03 - +0
If eating meat wasn't natural why do we have teeth that are purposed for tearing into animal flesh?
13 Oct 2017 12:59 - +0
That's calorific!
13 Oct 2017 12:42 - +0
well then, explain [these](
13 Oct 2017 11:16 - +-5
Plenty of us do it over at /r/ZeroCarb
13 Oct 2017 12:24 - +-6
Coming from a family with 2 vegans, (I myself am not one) it’s pretty clear to me that vegan is MUCH better for your health. That said, it’s more expensive, and also you have to be REALLY picky about it, and generally while you can be fine without eating meat, since there are plenty of alternatives, if you ever REALLY need to, then eating meat after NOT doing so for such a long time can cause very real problems to your body, and if someone leaves some cheese in that dish your friend made? Oh, you’re sick all night. It’s not that it’s unhealthy, or unnatural, or whatever, eating meat and animal products is just so much more convenient, honestly. I don’t care for meat a whole lot, but I do love my cheese, and I’m not giving that up for anything lol
13 Oct 2017 12:12 - +-7
early humans were also fucking their siblings. no one would call it natural when trump supporters engage in incest.

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