Salt Lake City jogger stabs man who groped her during morning run



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15 Nov 2017 10:00 - +7797
Don't do the crime if you can't take the multiple stab wounds.
15 Nov 2017 09:53 - +6497
>He is likely between 15 and 30 years old and may have puncture wounds on his arms, legs or chest. He **may** have puncture wounds? I think if you find a suspect for this crime without stab wounds, in this case it might be okay to set him free.
15 Nov 2017 11:36 - +4701
"What are you gonna do, stab me?" -Quote from man stabbed
15 Nov 2017 10:08 - +3869
WTF. you can't just go around groping people if you're not famous
15 Nov 2017 11:32 - +1735
I don't get it, aren't you supposed to be able to run faster with a knife?
15 Nov 2017 09:15 - +728
Nice job by the jogger. Hope she’s not too shaken up mentally. Things turned out OK, but it must’ve scared the shit out of her
15 Nov 2017 09:07 - +709
Didn't she post about it on Reddit?
15 Nov 2017 12:57 - +706
Dude tried to assault the wrong jogger. Good for her. I see why she ran with a knife in her hand. As long as it’s not scissors.
15 Nov 2017 14:11 - +598
You know what the saddest part about this is? A woman just trying to get some exercise in the morning where she freaking lives felt the need to have a knife concealed in her hand just to go outside and she was 100% right.
15 Nov 2017 12:45 - +520
I was assaulted Friday around 5:00 am near 2100S and 900W. I fucking ran. Nearly hit the guy with my car getting out of the parking lot.
15 Nov 2017 12:20 - +406
How many times has crap like this happened to this poor woman that she already had a knife in her hand?
15 Nov 2017 12:44 - +270
Police are now on the lookout for a man who now whistles when he rides his bike.
15 Nov 2017 13:12 - +153
It's unfortunate we still live in a society where someone has to have the forethought to bring a knife with them on a morning run. And that's not to even mention that it was actually needed
15 Nov 2017 11:46 - +145
Good for her. Let's hope our wacky system doesn't allow him to sue her or some shit
15 Nov 2017 12:22 - +103
Keep your hands to yourself, and you won't get stabbed. Seems easy enough.
15 Nov 2017 12:42 - +103
Don't do the grabbin' if you don't want the stabbin'.
15 Nov 2017 13:04 - +100
Technically the "running after" could have gotten very bad for her if she'd stabbed him even one more time. That generally negates "self-defense" and turns it into criminal assault and attempted murder. It still might get dicey carrying a knife in some cases.
15 Nov 2017 11:55 - +95
I have deep respect for this woman's epic instinct and zeal.
15 Nov 2017 12:39 - +94
Good for her. How could she know if this sexual assault by groping could lead to heat being raped or killed? She had every right to defend herself from the creep.
15 Nov 2017 11:15 - +91
good, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
15 Nov 2017 13:05 - +55
I'm glad she fought back. That dude got what he deserved.
15 Nov 2017 13:56 - +50
This story reminded for some reason that they never found that jogger lady who was randomly pooping in people's yards.
15 Nov 2017 13:05 - +49
Good. These guys do these things because they don't face repercussions. Thinking they can get away with it, or actually getting away with it, only emboldens them.
15 Nov 2017 15:34 - +44
Just a word of warning first: DO NOT EVER CARRY A KNIFE FOR SELF DEFENSE. In almost every case if you end up having to use it, it will not end well for you unless you have extensive training. Knives require close contact and are also very easily able to be taken and used against you. Nobody wins in a knife fight. The results of using a knife against someone usually ends with the outcome of one of you goes to the hospital, the other to the morgue. Contrary to popular belief, most people who have experience in this area will tell you they would always prefer to be shot than stabbed. Knife wounds can be easily deadly and tend to cause far more internal organ damage than a bullet. For those who do not want to carry a gun or taser, pepper sprays are an underrated and extremely effective self defense tool that allows you to keep your distance from your attacker. Be interested to see how this plays out. Most states only allow a proportionate response in terms of self defense. Being grabbed or grouped obviously allows for self defense, however stabbing someone with a knife constitutes "deadly force" in the terms of the law and is usually seen no different than using a gun. The fact that she stabbed him multiple times and then chased after him does not look good on her part. Edit: Read up more about what happened, seems like she posted the story to Reddit and deleted it. One part of the comment had her quoted >As soon as I felt his body, my hand shot backward and stabbed his leg, which caught him off guard, and he gasped and let go of me. Then I turned around to face him, and stabbed his chest and stomach area. If that's what actually happened, she's in the wrong here. You cannot keep using deadly force against someone who has stopped their attack. She says the man stopped and let go after the first stab, she should have stopped right there. The subsequent stabs in the chest likely do not meet the criteria for self defense, as she claims the man had let go before that. Adding in the subsequent chasing, if they catch this guy she's going to have a hell of a time defending her actions.
15 Nov 2017 13:16 - +36
If I lived west of the freeway I’d jog with a knife too
15 Nov 2017 13:01 - +35
This does seem like she might have been a little over-zealous, but what if she were a random guy who had been sucker-punched. Would you blame him for hollering and following his assailant for a bit? The fight-or-flight response is pretty hard to resist regardless of your chromosomal status.
15 Nov 2017 15:08 - +19
If anyone was looking for her original post that she deleted. Here it is. Thanks Google Cache. Here is the deleted post from /u/sss5551212: ------- > I’m just jogging along a residential area when he comes up to me from behind, pulls me close to his body, and grabs my ass. Really? > > What he wasn’t prepared for is, I carry a small blade in my hand when I go jogging in the dark. I have always done that, never really thinking I’d have occasion to use it. Then this guy comes along to justify why I carry it. > > As soon as I felt his body, my hand shot backward and stabbed his leg, which caught him off guard, and he gasped and let go of me. Then I turned around to face him, and stabbed his chest and stomach area. > > He acted shocked. Like what was he expecting? That I would scream and run? > > Oh I ran alright. I ran after him when he realized he picked the wrong target and couldn’t get away from me fast enough. I yelled at him something like “Hey you wanna try that again?” As he was scrambling down the sidewalk. > > I got the police on the phone while I followed him. He first tried to hide between some people in a bus stop shelter, but then took off running again when he saw me approaching with my phone to my ear. > > The police drove around looking for him but didn’t find him. Somewhere out there is a guy with some wounds, hopefully rethinking whether he will ever try that again. > > I will never understand what a guy like that thinks he’s going to get out of grabbing a random woman on the street. I can say for sure this one got way more than he bargained for. Source: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:qwPhRZZ0sTMJ:https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/7c34y2/while_jogging_early_this_morning_a_guy_assaulted/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=en
15 Nov 2017 16:14 - +19
Devil's advocate, what would stop a woman from CLAIMING a man groped her, but in reality she just ran at him with a knife and thrill-stabbed him a bunch? Wouldn't the majority of you believe she was groped and side with her, even without any evidence, witnesses, or a prior criminal record for the supposed-groper? If she doesn't have a bruised breast, and there are no witnesses, no footage, no nothing, then perhaps the man was simply stabbed by a crazy woman who has found a good way to obscure the nature of her violence? Now imagine she isn't a woman, but a man who stabbed another man because he claimed his ass was grabbed. No footage, no evidence, no bruised ass-cheek, no witnesses. Just one bloody guy with multiple stab wounds and one guy claiming that his ass was grabbed. What now?
15 Nov 2017 13:30 - +16
... There was agression on many sides, many sides...
15 Nov 2017 16:18 - +14
She's totally entitled to defend herself. But if this guy died, would we be saying he deserved it? Letting her get away with STABBING SOMEONE seems a bit much. Obviously the guy should be in jail too, and him groping her is a serious mitigating circumstance for her, but I feel like fucking knifing someone is a bit of an unreasonable retaliation. Like punching someone for insulting you. What's wrong with mace?
15 Nov 2017 15:56 - +12
well, devil's advocate here.... We only have one side of the story here. Why would someone be running with a knife in their hand like that? You were running and someone came up behind you, wearing a backpack? There is a super vague description? Something about this story just sounds off. I don't know.
15 Nov 2017 15:22 - +11
I'm seeing a lot of crazy in this thread (not sure why this surprises me considering I'm on reddit) and I think it really comes down to the definition of grope. Scenario #1: The guy is running on the same running path. As he is passing her he slaps her ass and says "hey babe, nice ass" and runs on by, not thinking what he did was wrong or weird in anyway. Scenario #2: The guy runs up to her, grabs her and holds her in his arms and starts grabbing her ass not letting her go at all with an obvious intention of grabbing more of her body while restraining her. Which is it? If it is scenario #2, the woman was justified since she can reasonably assume she was in physical danger. If it is scenario #1, the lady is a nutjob murderer and more guilty than the weirdo pervert who grabbed her ass.
15 Nov 2017 13:59 - +10
didn't the jogger post into r/twoxchromosomes? could've sworn I read about it there
15 Nov 2017 14:58 - +9
In the words of Bill Bailey: "It's the joggers I don't trust... They're always the ones who find the bodies. Coincidence? I don't think so!"
15 Nov 2017 14:54 - +9
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15 Nov 2017 15:05 - +5
inb4 the r/legaladvice thread "Groped a woman and she stabbed me, that can't be legal, right?"

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