Adobe doesn't have two separate boxes for agreeing to their Terms of Service and subscribing to their newsletter when signing up.


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18 Mar 2018 21:02 - +3401
They have a stranglehold on their market. They were the first to introduce subscription-ware, which essentially holds any files you made with their software in the past 25 years hostage. Sure, we don't have to subscribe for life, but if we don't we can't fully edit our own work. Additionally, try to find a class in photography, graphic design, illustration, or even typesetting that doesn't require the use of either In Design, Photoshop or Illustrator. They don't exist. Their market dominance is stifling innovation, they make baffling choice in their interface design throughout, and they steadfastly refuse to take their customer's desires into account. This thing you've posted? It's the ice crystal on the tip of the iceberg.
18 Mar 2018 23:27 - +947
Not in their Canadian version, though. Because a couple of years ago we introduced comprehensive anti-spam legislation, and this kind of behaviour puts them at risk of a $10 million fine. Corporations are little creatures designed to do whatever they can to make money. If you want better behaviour from them, you've got to legislate it.
18 Mar 2018 21:37 - +437
Adobe is pretty scummy. [Here's a video](https://youtu.be/78yigV0GYGQ) of their CEO dodging a question why their products cost more in Australia.
18 Mar 2018 23:11 - +231
Dystopian future: ☑️ I agree to the terms and conditions, and allow Adobe to seize all of my assets, including my soul.
18 Mar 2018 23:34 - +207
Everything about Adobe is assholedesign. Source: am designer.
18 Mar 2018 20:55 - +148
Truly an asshole design.
18 Mar 2018 21:10 - +96
Not for long -> GDPR
18 Mar 2018 22:04 - +44
Just cancelled my subscription the other day. Gonna be saving a lot of money.
18 Mar 2018 22:55 - +41
That's when you resort to the "report spam" button.
18 Mar 2018 23:18 - +39
Adobe is probably the most evil developer in the world.
18 Mar 2018 23:39 - +33
Less of asshole design, more like complete disregard of the laws some nations have set/are setting. If they don’t change this by May 2018, they won’t be GDPR compliant and will likely have to pay the EU 10 million euros or 2% of their annual revenue, whichever is higher Oh, and the irony: https://www.adobe.com/data-analytics-cloud/analytics/general-data-protection-regulation.html
19 Mar 2018 00:43 - +33
Adobe software should be pirated for any private use, if for no reason other than sneaking McAfee on to old people's computers who are just trying to download a PDF reader to pay their bills.
18 Mar 2018 22:58 - +21
Try cancelling the subscription, you'll go insane
18 Mar 2018 22:46 - +20
That's exactly what they want, free publicity at the expense of a new user. It's a win win situation for them but for the user is a fucking nightmare
18 Mar 2018 23:52 - +20
If you’re on a Mac, I would encourage everyone to try Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer. Both fantastic alternatives to Photoshop and Illustrator. $50 each for life, huge updates. They even have a full app for iPad I’ve grown tired of the shift to subscription services just to make money and I can’t stand Adobe. They’re like AT&T; shit, but what choice do you have? I don’t use any Adobe apps anymore and I haven’t looked back.
18 Mar 2018 23:28 - +16
It is really hard to deal with a company if they are dominating their field. I use Krita and Inkscape for now.
18 Mar 2018 23:59 - +16
This is illegal under the Canadian anti spam law. Report them canucks!
18 Mar 2018 23:56 - +13
Adobe is the king of shenanigans. The only other software giant I hate as much is Intuit.
19 Mar 2018 00:40 - +13
Literally everything about Adobe sucks. Their licensing for corporate environments is absolute straight cancer. Why? You have to create a new user through their portal and include an email. Then, an email gets sent to the user with a link to complete their profile and download the application. However, the emails are EXTREMELY inconsistent. In fact, most don’t make it the first time and often I go days waiting for that email. There is no way for an admin to just complete the setup directly in the portal,OR TO EVEN DOWNLOAD THE DAMNED APPLICATION. That has to be done through the email link! So if someone starts at my company on short notice, they often cannot use Adobe for several days because reasons. Adobe, if you are reading this thread, get your heads out of your asses and fix this. Look at Office 365 licensing as a template. Also, fuck you.
19 Mar 2018 00:38 - +9
Just mark every email as spam, but don’t unsubscribe. That’s what I do to every mailing list I get opted into without my consent. If enough people do it, their emails will go to spam even for people who don’t mark them as such.
19 Mar 2018 00:10 - +8
I miss Macromedia.
18 Mar 2018 23:51 - +7
Roll on GDPR! I can't wait for this type of assholery to be outlawed!
19 Mar 2018 01:40 - +7
Hahahah. I've never encountered a company that practically *begged* you to pirate their software as much as Adobe.
19 Mar 2018 01:26 - +7
Which is 100% of the reason why when software companies, just like Adobe, complain about piracy I cannot help but laugh. They did the subscription model because it was a fantastic way to get recurring revenue, month after month. Recurring revenue is like the holy grail of revenue sources in any store/market/company. They also could continually update the software in a way that was easy to the end-user and apply any fixes for "cracks" someone might have came up with. Well it's been a few years now and I know of at least one tool that continually beats the security of Adobe and allows you to update the program(s) for free.
18 Mar 2018 23:15 - +7
Edit: How did this blow up so fast?????????? Edit 2: Wtf I made it to the front page!! I was at ~700 up votes an hour ago when I posted edit 1.
18 Mar 2018 23:31 - +6
I hate adobe almost as much as EA
19 Mar 2018 01:12 - +5
Click show details then you can unsubscribe from the newsletter
18 Mar 2018 23:43 - +4
Adobe is definitely the worst but I wouldn't be surprised if the subscription to the newsletter is in their terms and conditions.
19 Mar 2018 00:13 - +4
I am so looking forward to 25 May when this kind of assholery will be illegal in the EU.
19 Mar 2018 01:02 - +4
Pretty much all of Adobe is asshole design. The programs themselves are great but I need the Creative Cloud for many animation/computer graphics projects. Its the only set of programs that I have to still pay for as a student. I'm sure I'm just an Entitled Millennial for thinking this but I just don't have the money to pay $20 a month for it.
19 Mar 2018 00:25 - +4
I'm so glad that Clip Studio Paint can save in .psd, so the only Adobe product I have is a free copy of CS2 for when I absolutely *must* edit a .psd file and can't do it in CSP.
19 Mar 2018 00:28 - +4
Adobe are complete bullshit. I use premiere pro every day for work and it is the second most unstable shit I’ve ever used. Second only to media encoder which was actually made by Satan to test your patience.
19 Mar 2018 01:12 - +3
I am making a list about EVERY single product that does not have a subscription based model so that it can be posted as preferred alternatives to ADOBE'S trash... Anyone want to help make the list?
19 Mar 2018 00:58 - +3
Whenever you subscribe to them there should be a unsub button on their emails, unless they are truly an asshole company.
18 Mar 2018 23:42 - +3
I bet it's in the terms anyway.
19 Mar 2018 01:24 - +3
Do you agree to the terms and service and subscribe to our newsletter and agree to install mccafee antivirus
19 Mar 2018 00:02 - +3
Piracy
19 Mar 2018 02:30 - +3
Ya know what i hate about adobe? You sign up as a subscription you pay a month... but they say its a *contract*. Ya know... like how phone companies used to have contracts but don’t now because its stupid? So if you want to cancel... you literally have to wait for the last month of your subscription to cancel. You do it before, you pay half of whats left of your contract to buy out of the contract. And no it doesn’t say “do not auto-renew” anywhere. You cant buy it for a month. You cant subscribe for a semester and then cancel when you don’t need it anymore. *you literally are stuck with it for a year or PAY to cancel* God they suck.
19 Mar 2018 00:07 - +3
I totally read Adolph instead of Adobe and it still worked.
19 Mar 2018 02:21 - +3
I’m in an engineering discipline (automation), and I use Autodesk, Adobe, MS, and other products everyday of my life, and I can tell all you designers the same thing I tell my engineering buddies: Until people get serious and whole segments of the design/engineering communities start donating time and money to open source development, this is never going to go away. It might be somewhat balanced by competition, but that’s it.
19 Mar 2018 00:07 - +3
That's the Adobe way. They are very good at strong arming people and companies.
19 Mar 2018 00:53 - +3
What's worse is now they require a adobe ID to view any adobe forum post and because each product has it's own domain for the forum chrome won't save the password and auto login or whatever. It's infuriating!
19 Mar 2018 00:36 - +3
I had to encrypt a file to email for work from home. I paid 27 bucks or whatever to upgrade. Eventually found out it was 27 a month, not a one time purchase. I still get almost an email a day from them and I havent used it since that first time.
19 Mar 2018 01:01 - +3
As a matter of policy, I do not subscribe to art tools. I subscribe to the newspaper. I subscribe to Netflix. I do not subscribe to a digital paint brush.
19 Mar 2018 00:40 - +3
adobe are the kings of assholes
19 Mar 2018 01:06 - +3
I'm fine with all those people that pirate Photoshop. This has got to be one of the scummiest software companies there is. They are always pulling shit like this.
19 Mar 2018 00:40 - +3
And that, children, is why you have a separate email box for this sort of thing. (which you should log on to every few months just so that you can delete everything + prevent it from filling up to a point where you can't get that super important verification email they just sent you)
19 Mar 2018 01:24 - +3
Fuck you, Adobe!
19 Mar 2018 00:49 - +3
They are such a shit company. Adobe, Autodesk, and (older) Microsoft are companies whose products you typically might need to use, not *want* to use.
19 Mar 2018 02:55 - +3
I was getting prepped for surgery. I was in the prep room, had my line in and everything. Woman comes by to have me sign forms. Mixed into one of the paragraphs was >I will allow _______ Hospital & Clinics to immediately bill any debit or credit card used at any _________ Hospital & Clinics for any unforeseen charges. Nope. I wouldn't sign. And they said they wouldn't perform the surgery. I demanded my cell phone and got my insurance on the line, Blue Cross. Blue Cross contract rep for that "region" told them it was against their contract to take any payments from me above my copay, and that what I would owe would be figured out by THEM, not the Hospital. Got my surgery. Total they billed was $18,000, BCBS paid about $7,000, I paid $150, because I came through the emergency room, but was never admitted. If you have health insurance, be very careful what you sign at health care providers. Your contract is between you and your insurance provider. Your insurance provider has a contract with the health care provider. They negotiate everything FOR YOU, for every single possible scenario.
19 Mar 2018 01:06 - +3
Yes, we see the future as being the Creative Cloud...
19 Mar 2018 00:01 - +3
It's probably in the terms and conditions that you didn't read
19 Mar 2018 00:57 - +2
If you click the details part you have the option of deselecting, right?
19 Mar 2018 00:52 - +2
that's one more reason you should pirate their software
19 Mar 2018 00:16 - +2
Makes the choice super easy!
19 Mar 2018 00:52 - +2
Is this legal?
19 Mar 2018 01:27 - +2
At least they notify you that they are gonna do that. A lot of stuff I download or use just starts sending me emails without asking me.
19 Mar 2018 00:55 - +2
Signing up for their news letter is one of the terms.

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